Intellectuals and Race - Thomas Sowell Audiobook
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Thomas Sowell’s incisive critique of the intellectuals’ destructive role in shaping ideas about race in America.
‘Intellectuals and Race’ is a radical book in the original sense of one that goes to the root of the problem.
The role of intellectuals in racial strife is explored in an international context that puts the American experience in a wholly new light.
The views of individual intellectuals have spanned the spectrum, but the views of intellectuals as a whole have tended to cluster.
Indeed, these views have clustered at one end of the spectrum in the early 20th century and then clustered at the opposite end of the spectrum in the late 20th century.
Moreover, these radically different views of race in these two eras were held by intellectuals whose views on other issues were very similar in both eras.
‘Intellectuals and Race’ is not, however, a book about history, even though it has much historical evidence, as well as demographic, geographic, economic and statistical evidence — all of it directed toward testing the underlying assumptions about race that have prevailed at times among intellectuals in general, and especially intellectuals at the highest levels.
Nor is this simply a theoretical exercise.
The impact of intellectuals’ ideas and crusades on the larger society, both past and present, is the ultimate concern.
These ideas and crusades have ranged widely from racial theories of intelligence to eugenics to “social justice” and multiculturalism.
In addition to in-depth examinations of these and other issues, ‘Intellectuals and Race’ explores the incentives, the visions and the rationales that drive intellectuals at the highest levels to conclusions that have often turned out to be counterproductive and even disastrous, not only for particular racial or ethnic groups, but for societies as a whole.
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Introduction
Chapter 1: Questions About Race
Chapter 2: Disparities and Their Causes
Chapter 3: Changing Racial Beliefs
Chapter 4: Internal Responses to Disparities
Chapter 5: Race and Intelligence
Chapter 6: Liberalism and Multiculturalism
Chapter 7: Race and Cosmic Justice
Chapter 8: The Past and The Future
Notes
Index
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This post has 52 comments with rating of 5/5
July 9th, 2021
As always, a learning experience from Mr. Sowell
July 9th, 2021
the man is a friedman brand cretin. literally an uncle tom. He can talk like william f buckley and that lends credence to his arguments for meat heads. His economic theory does not correspond to reality, just like his pseudo-sociological takes. Its bunk.
July 9th, 2021
The author is literally an anti-intellectual. Which is insane when you realise that an intellectual is a person who has the ability to understand and reason objectively.
July 9th, 2021
@toadmanga thanks for the deeply reasoned and un-racist review of Mr. Sowell.
July 9th, 2021
@Jack_Milad Thomas Sowell is an anti-intellectual versus you know a towering black intellectual like Michael Eric Dyson I presume?
July 9th, 2021
Drivel.
July 9th, 2021
What a looser! He’s no Ibram X. Kendi.
July 9th, 2021
Lol. One thing black people aren’t allowed to do is think for themselves, this upsets leftists because it means that they no longer consider themselves victims.
And as everyone knows victim points mean prizes in the mad rush to be “anti-racist” by deciding what black people should think, instead.
Thomas Sowell is certainly smarter than the dimwits denigrating his intellect here. And they do that because they are incapable of engaging with his arguments.
July 9th, 2021
@wheresmycannon dont get me wrong, I don’t put any stock in Michael Eric Dyson either. Anyone involved in the church definitely has a few screws loose.
As for Thomas Sowell, you’d have to be completely ignorant to everything he’s ever done if you’re unaware of his constant bashing of intellectuals. How about you give this audiobook a listen for an hour and see what kind of light he paints intellectuals in if you’re in doubt.
July 9th, 2021
Oh no! Not the bashing of “intellectuals”! What a crime.
Imagine a black man having the temerity to note that these people are full of BS.
You don’t have to, because Mr. Sowell does so with a certain amount of eloquent brilliance.
But these “intellectuals” are the clowns that the left line up behind and therefore his crime is not his lack of intelligence but rather his refusal to sign up to what white people think is best for black people.
Because in 2021, there is none more racist than the woke.
July 10th, 2021
@Jack - Which writers/intellectuals in particular do you find him to be excessively critical of; what is the nature of his critique, and why would you judge it to be unreasonable? An interesting subject, I’d say.
July 10th, 2021
Same tired subjects, same intellectually bankrupt ideas, utterly predictable and meaningless blather. I’m talking about the comments from the same batch of mental midgets, as predictable as the rising of the sun. It’s not even entertaining anymore, just more of the same.
July 10th, 2021
Thank You.
July 10th, 2021
LOL at GordonCoon’s and Apollo60’s “one black friend”
July 10th, 2021
@GordonCoon it’s a bit mental how obsessed you are with the fact the author is black. If he was a leftie and i was using the same arguments as you, you’d call me a racist. You’re a hypocrite.
@caesar963 either you haven’t been looking into it or you’re being deliberately obtuse. Given tour verbose ramblings elsewhere, I’m inclined to believe it’s the latter. The way Sowell speaks about intellectuals reads like a personal vendetta. Not even anyone in particular, but a crusade against anyone who might be considered an intellectual. Which is ironic when you consider that he’s walking that particular path himself.
July 10th, 2021
Caesar is always deliberately obtuse. He loves it. He revels in it like swine. He thinks it makes him look intelligent. It just makes him look a schizophrenic with a few catholic holdovers.
Thomas Sowell is the intellectual equivalent of Glenn Greenwald. He’ll parrot the points for anyone who’ll pay his way. The term ‘Uncle Tom’ Literally fits with him. His aims and ideas run counter to the progress and elevation of disenfranchised black people in the US and elsewhere. He is an active agent of functional evil and oppression. Guys like gordon with the word coon in their name crying about the racism of the left in not just swallowing nonsense from neocon who happen to be black. Yeah. Real rainbow coalition stuff going on here.
July 10th, 2021
Bless, the brainwashed clowns are so full of hate that they can’t see beyond the ends of their noses.
They scream racism in every thread, except the one where they queue up to take turns dumping on a black guy and wonder why others might see that as hypocrisy?
This of course stems from their self-loathing, their inadequate lives in which they create nothing of value and are angry that others who work for it have more than they do.
Jack and Ms. Manga, get help, you seriously need it. And don’t forget God loves you, even if everyone else thinks you’re a… you can fill in the blank, because deep down, you already know it.
July 10th, 2021
@GordonCoon bless, the “statistically this author is more likely to be a violent criminal” crowd telling people that you’ve got to listen to what someone says because of the colour of their skin.
I’m not forming my opinion of the author based on his skin colour. You’re obsessed with it to the point where you’re inconsistent with some of the previous arguments and comments made on this site. So yeah, racist hypocrite. Sorry if the truth upsets you snowflake.
July 10th, 2021
@Jack - Given that it’s abt the hist/realm of ideas, & their nominated originators, specific examples are always useful. We do recall particular cases. Attacks can be overly general, without the provision of supporting examples, which necessarily ground an argument.
July 10th, 2021
@toady - You’re full of Nuremberg beans, it’s like you’ve got a new lease of fascism!
Others deserve a hearing, but only genocide-denying, anti-Semitic, Nat Socialist toenails like yourself would disagree that you’ve lost any moral right to a reasonable hearing.
July 10th, 2021
Ah yes, Jack projecting his own racism again there folks.
He’s obsessed with skin color, until them uppity ones go and do their own thinking. Then he pretends he just hates their ideas rather than that they have the cheek to disagree with his own foolishness.
He lives and breathes “racism” so bad that it colors, excuse the pun, his every thought.
Bless. Clownworld.
July 10th, 2021
@Jack_Milad I don’t need to listen to this book, I read it about 6 years ago. I find Sowell a breath of fresh air. There is a difference between someone whom is intelligent and uses their intelligence in a esoteric way to enhance the world around them through their applied field or specialty. What I do not like, and agree with Mr. Sowell on is a distaste for “intellectuals”. People whom live in their heads, have a sense or superiority with no claim to anything tangible, and are the first ones to cast dispersions and condemn others from their high seat in the ivory tower of thought. Those kinds of people historically do not make things better. Criticize them and you invoke the wrath of millions of other “intellectuals” who will admonish you for simply “not getting it” because you demand a little bit of competence from people in powerful positions.
July 11th, 2021
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At one time, educators boasted that their role was not to teach students what to think but how to think. Today, their role is far too often to teach students what to think on everything from immigration to global warming to the new sacred trinity of “race, class and gender.”
July 11th, 2021
@GordonCoon you mentioned race long before I did. I do appreciate that your stance is that of the most extreme BLM supporter right now though, it’s nice to see.
@wheresmycannon “those kinds of people historically do not make things better”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intellectuals_of_the_Enlightenment
I disagree. And I think if someone feels the need to dismiss intellectuals with a sweeping statement whilst also falling into the category themselves then it’s more to preemptively soften the backlash when their peers disagree with what they say. It’s the same thing Trump did with the mainstream media. The same thing climate change deniers did with science. The same thing Republicans in general do with anyone who’s an expert in their field. “Ignore what these people are going to say in response to my statements, I’m the only voice that matters because I’m saying something that you want to hear.”
July 11th, 2021
> I think if someone feels the need to dismiss intellectuals with a sweeping statement whilst also falling into the category themselves…
It is not important if a particular statement is SWEEPING — only if it is RIGHT.
July 11th, 2021
The simple fact is that when I see a Sowell book on this site, there are virtually always attacks based on his colour. The Sowell upload before this had a galactically stupid id!ot launching immed into an attack on his bête noire, whom he referred to as “Black Avatar” - this dehumanised figment was guilty of every evil. Why not “Black Beast” and be done with it? There’s an added vitriolic hatred reserved for Sowell. Internet eejits are incapable of evaluating ideas, they always foamingly attack people.
On the specific subject of intellectuals as an unfairly targetted class, which should be above all measured criticism: reasonable critique of intellectuals’ ideas & ideologies are perfectly valid. We can all think of examples of the most devastatingly harmful ideas. Utopian/centrally planned ideas which resulted in actual genocide. These ideas are still being promoted. There’s a necessity of criticism in this intellectual space.
Reflect on the extremism in Rousseau - the chief philosophe of the Enlightenment, and the subsequent Fr Rev & its Terror/atrocities. On the specific point of intellectuals & race, recall that Enlightenment philosophe’s also gave the world “scientific” racism. Intellectuals theorised that the distinctive odor which they detected in people of African origin resulted from urine being perspired from their very pores. Sowell ought not be the only human being appalled by all of this garbage.
Recall Enlightened Despotism; Laissez-faire and the Great Famine.
Recall the intellectuals of May ‘68 & their subsequent campaign to legalise sexual relations with children. Michel Foucault argued that laws forbidding sex with children were “intolerable, quite unacceptable.” He & Sartre, et al all defended the idea of child-adult sexual relationships. In 1977, a petition was addressed to the Nat Assembly calling for the abrogation of several articles of the age of consent law and the decriminalization of all consensual relations between adults & minors. A number of French intellectuals – incl Louis Aragon, Foucault, Sartre, Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser, Roland Barthes, Simone de Beauvoir, Gilles Deleuze, Félix Guattari, Michel Leiris, Alain Robbe-Grillet, Philippe Sollers, Jacques Rancière, Jean-François Lyotard, Francis Ponge, Bernard Besret & various prominent doctors & psychologists – signed the petition. In 1979 two open letters were published in Fr newspapers defending individuals arrested under charges of statutory rape, in the context of abolition of age of consent laws.
You could doubtless think of numerous equally appalling examples yourself.
This is why I said that particular supporting arguments are always necessary in discourse. Generalised attacks are empty air; angry & ignorant.
July 11th, 2021
@alnilam I agree. So on something that’s a matter of moral relativism or subjective opinion, it makes even less sense.
@caesar963 what you’ve got here is the equivalent of using “the free love movement had paedophilia advocates” argument to also dismiss anyone who was only advocating for homosexuals to be treat like human beings. Or “some BLM activists were violent, so the entire movement is wrong”. Or “some conservatives stormed the capitol building, so all conservatives advocate domestic terrorism and are anti democracy”.
That’s the same problem I have with sweeping statements about intellectuals.
July 11th, 2021
Who you gonna call when you’re haunted by insubstantial silver service?
July 11th, 2021
Why link consensual homosexuality to paedophilia here? We’ve seen enough of that sleazy garbage already. A blatant smokescreen. This very specific campaign strenuously promoted the legalisation of sexual relations with children.
An open letter signed by 69 of these same intellectuals was publ in Le Monde in 1977, on the eve of the trial of three Frenchmen, all accused of having sex with 13- and 14-year-old girls and boys.
A similar letter was publ in the paper Libération in 1979, supporting a man, an accused child sex criminal, signed by 63 such persons again, stating that he lived with young girls aged 6 to 12 and that they were happy with the situation.
You can’t condemn sweeping statements, while in the same breath making generalised attacks on the author.
July 11th, 2021
@caesar963 oh for christ sake, don’t act like a significant portion of people in the 60s and 70s who hated gay people didnt use the slippery slope fallacy argument to lump homos3cuals in with paedophiles and zoophiles. It still bloody happens, and you’re not oblivious enough to pretend it doesnt.
Same principle applies. Yes, paedophiles are bad. Duh. But pretending they were an accurate representation of the entire free love movement is disingenuous nonsense.
July 11th, 2021
And it’s barely a sweeping statement to say this one author lumping all intellectuals into the same category is stupid.
July 11th, 2021
Once again, re-Sowell: specific examples for “all” intellectuals? What does he say, and is it valid?
You somewhat idealistically defined intellectuals as “a person who has the ability to understand and reason objectively.” How then may we reconcile that with an organised, specific, high-profile campaign by intellectuals to legalise paedophilia (I’d recommend avoiding your linkage of it to free love or homosexuality); Utopian/centrally planned ideas which resulted in genocide; Enlightened Despotism; Laissez-faire and the Great Famine; Rousseau’s extremism which heavily influenced the Fr Rev & its Terror/atrocities; Enlightenment “scientific” racism - to name but a few? Is Sowell’s scepticism of their vaunted powers of objectivity at all reasonable?
July 11th, 2021
@caesar963 For someone so verbose, you seem to be struggling with comprehension. I’ve dumbed it down as much as I care to, and you clearly still managed to miss the point. So my natural assumption is that you’re arguing in bad faith and you’re not worth the time or energy.
July 11th, 2021
“Dumb” is certainly the active term. You admit you have no supporting examples for your generalised, sweeping attack. I did suspect as much, which is why I probed. You haven’t demonstrated any knowledge of the subject. Your irrational attack seems to be slightly less offensive than the racists. However, the vehemence of it is unexplained. Personalised attacks are the stock-in-trade.
Bad faith is an interesting projection, given that you consider the present critique of intellectuals to be invalid, yet carefully avoided the examples which I provided. All of this clearly amounts to bad faith argumentation. Questioning can expose it in just such a way.
July 11th, 2021
Thus thoroughly proving that you’ve missed the point entirely. I can’t. Because he didn’t. Which is entirely the point I was making.
July 11th, 2021
Your point is that the author does not name a single, solitary person or idea with whom, and with which, he takes issue? One that you may identify, therefore supporting your attack? And that’s your entire argument? We’re thru the looking glass now…
July 11th, 2021
At this point you’re just posting pure fascistic propaganda now. Pure goebbels-level mindpoison.
July 11th, 2021
I see Jack thinks Caesar is arguing in bad faith, “you’re arguing in bad faith and you’re not worth the time or energy”, so lets look at the play by play.
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Caesar asks a number of direct questions “(1)Which writers/intellectuals in particular do you find him to be excessively critical of; (2)what is the nature of his critique, and (3)why would you judge it to be unreasonable?”
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Jack’s reply (i) “The way Sowell speaks about intellectuals reads like a personal vendetta. Not even anyone in particular, but a crusade against anyone who might be considered an intellectual.”
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Then to go to the authors premise Caesar provides an example of why he thinks it may indeed be appropriate to question intellectuals.
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Jack then interprets Caesar’s example in a separated context, to express the validity of his dislike for sweeping statements; I hazard in order to go to his own posit that Sowell largely/ only makes sweeping statements?
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More Caesar questions “(4)specific examples for “all” intellectuals? (5)What does he say, and (6)is it valid? (7)Is Sowell’s scepticism of their vaunted powers of objectivity at all reasonable?”
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Jack replies with his closing argument (ii) “I can’t. Because he didn’t.”
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@Caesar :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cs3Pvmmv0E
July 11th, 2021
@wheresmycannon “those kinds of people historically do not make things better”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intellectuals_of_the_Enlightenment
I disagree. And I think if someone feels the need to dismiss intellectuals with a sweeping statement whilst also falling into the category themselves then it’s more to preemptively soften the backlash when their peers disagree with what they say. It’s the same thing Trump did with the mainstream media. The same thing climate change deniers did with science. The same thing Republicans in general do with anyone who’s an expert in their field. “Ignore what these people are going to say in response to my statements, I’m the only voice that matters because I’m saying something that you want to hear.”
Okay for one, I find whatever point your link to Wikipedia is trying to prove very very weak. In fact it actually strengthens my point. During the enlightenment thinking was technically speaking out. Martin Luther DID produce action and thus results. He was a theorist and priest, those were his fields so his intelligence was applied within his area of expertise. Many of those thinkers on the list applied their thoughts within the bounds of specific areas of philosophy or science. Back then being a Philosopher (note the capital P, was a real thing). They did not simply stump for their beliefs or point of view and then do nothing. They brought about real change. If you re-read what I said, that was exactly my point. Sowell’s not a fan of do nothing, overly educated, self aggrandizing quote unquote “intellectuals”. Not people being intelligent. How can you not understand that? It is like you are purposely missing his point so you can argue about it. Notice almost NO ONE on that list is a politician, they impacted the world through their field of study, by applying their intelligence. I would hardly call that list of intellectuals a list of of “intellectuals” as Sowell often uses the term. You can even find a Youtube video of him giving an interview where he explains the difference. Don’t put yourself in a position to miss his point because you can’t bear the idea of possibly seeing that he has one.
July 11th, 2021
@Rosco - You’re clearly not watching the other big match: “Football’s Coming Rome?”
July 11th, 2021
…here in the villa, we’re on tenterhooks.
July 11th, 2021
The equation is anal-ogous to this hypothetical: If u had been able to answer one of my questions, or address any of my points… But u didn’t. So u can’t.
Quod erat whatchamacallit. Cogito, ergo summat.
Always show yer work, students.
July 11th, 2021
Up the Pompeii tonight hehe! Wish the F1 was on instead tbh.
July 11th, 2021
Perfidious Al will be even more insufferable, he’ll be drunkenly fighting them on the beaches (not his finest hour, tbh, but don’t mention the war).
You should check out “F9: Who Actually Gives An F?” in the interim.
July 11th, 2021
Looks good! Me thought it was just a documentary at first when the car went off cliff in order to use the gravity and get a big swing on the rope to chase the bad plane that was excaping :)
July 11th, 2021
The only thing I worry about when studying the films is that p’haps, on occasion, they come close to straining my credulity. Depending on how we define my credulity, of course. Everyone’s subjective credulity has its own mileage - which is necessarily variable, as I believe the kids say.
But, with those caveats & qualifications out of the way…
I believe that (adopts diplomatic, funereal tone) soccer-ball shall not be returning home this year. I want to get in there before Boris, and fully blame Brexit for the defeat. They need an enemy, as all despots know. The shame is that they looked at the Sun and then looked in the Mirror, believed they were on the right track, yeah, they were on to a winner…
July 12th, 2021
Friedman and Sowell are pig people.
July 12th, 2021
Oh and Caesar. I never denied genocide, I’m not a nazi, but you are most certainly a gowl who doesn’t understand the definitions of words and the differences between ideologies. End your own life.
July 12th, 2021
Your buddy Gordon is a literal white nationalist. Seriously. These are your people.
July 12th, 2021
So when u rejected the term, you were, in actual fact, affirming the genocides which I enumerated - inclusive of the Holodomor, the Holocaust, the Chinese genocides, the Cambodian Killing Fields? That’s your argument? You really shouldn’t represent yourself.
And I notice you’re attacking Jewish people again - twice on this page, even though it’s not actually a Friedman book. Jews must be obsessing u once more. You say that both the Jew and the African American are “pig people” - and then you’re trying to suggest that you’re “not a nazi?” No wonder you’re aroused by killing.
Which is more likely: that I don’t “understand the definitions of words and the differences between ideologies” - or that you, on the evidence of what you yourself have revealed & declared, are firmly ensconced on the Nat Socialist spectrum? That these are your people, and you share the same delusions, ignorant obsessions, and hatreds?
Don’t be a Nazi; be happy instead - live a real life.
July 28th, 2021
@caesar963
Anyone who isn’t an out-and-out Trumpian is a kiddy diddler? Who knew.
August 2nd, 2021
How do u figure that Mr Biter? Is that some kind of American reductionism on acid? Your America is not the world; your Trump is not the universe. That writ doesn’t run in France or here in Europe. I don’t think the book’s about your Orange Man; trying to shoehorn him into a book about intellectuals is p’haps dubious.
In any event, it’s crazy about that petition, and all the other examples, isn’t it? Who knew!
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